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re: on billionares, "forcefem", gen pol, and "queers can be evil too"re: orphan post cutie.city/@OctaviaConAmore/116512853556194092
honestly cant tell if you're doing a bit or not with the light sarcasm but, yeah.
its not that i'm not aware of the criticism of what they're saying, i very much am. i removed the line because upon reflection yeah it does come off that way and wasn't worded well. ill take that L willingly, my bad.
i also happen to know that i have had the unfortunate experience of having dealt with more than my fair share of actual transfem nazis in the past, (including one of my stalkers.) that said you are also are 100% right, the "transfems have a nazi phase" talking point is also problematic as fuck, and is a problem, and i will not deny that. i will however also not deny that some do exist, as much as i and a lot of us wish they didnt.
it is also not the point of message i am trying to convey here. i think that denying the fact that we as a community are capable of doing harm and also can be blind to certain things is also a disservice not only to ourselves but to others.
the fact that there are people who think that joking about bodily autonomy in this way is ok just illustrates what i feel in my mind is the same kind of "blindspot" that the act of forcefemmimg itself is (in the context of the jokes in question) supposedly supposed to "cure" in the billionaires. the entire concept reeks of misogyny and transmisogyny and is antithetical to bodily autonomy as a concept. that anyone can go "but they're evil men so its ok ha ha funny" about it makes me genuinely upset.
re: on billionares, "forcefem", gen pol, and "queers can be evil too"@winter@YKantRachelRead i think you're both getting hung up on that one line, (which admittedly was badly worded by me, and has now removed), and missing the point.
re: on billionares, "forcefem", gen pol, and "queers can be evil too"@YKantRachelRead before i knew any better myself i dated a few. several of them were my friends when i was younger.
on billionares, "forcefem", gen pol, and "queers can be evil too"I stg if i stumble upon another fucking "we should forcefem the rich" meme I'm going to fucking lose it.
lets put aside the horrifying implications of intentionally nonconsensually causing someone gender dysphoria for the moment, and lets say you somehow manage to forcefem all the problematic evil billionaires. do you seriously expect that to suddenly make everyone more empathetic and understanding?
being queer or having some queer experiences doesn't automagically make someone a good and more understanding and empathetic person. peter thiel and sam altman are fucking gay but them being gay doesn't mean they understand gay issues or are empathetic towards their fellow gays. they're all too insulated from any potential hardships they would have to face because they are affluent males in a white male dominated society. caitlyn jenner is trans and she obviously doesn't give a shit about her fellow trans people, she is too rich and is also too insulated to care, even as the leopards actively gnaw away at her face. any potential levels of hardship they may or may not have had to face for being gay or trans can easily be solved by them being rich fucks.
people will usually only change their worldview insofar as it directly affects them, and usually not much further than that unless necessary. they can trans their gender or come out as gay to square away that personal issue but wont change anything else about their mindset until it also affects them personally.
this doesn't just apply to rich billionare assholes but to everyone as well. yes even you, the "oh i would never, im woke enough to realize this is bad." person reading this. everyone needs that swift kick in the pants in order to understand and empathize with things outside of our perspective at least the once. some of us need it several times. that in and of itself is not a moral failing that is life. and i do mean everyone. everyone has had it happen in their lives at least once. to deny that is to deny how humans generally think and operate. the trick, and what is in my mind the mark of someone who truly is open minded or "woke", is needing that boot up the proverbial ass as few times as possible, but even then we cannot escape the reality that there are some things out of our periphery and we will need to be reminded of that, and there shouldn't be any shame in admitting that.
these billionaire fucks have not had enough of those proverbial boots up the ass, because they have insulated themselves from having it done. they do not want to be forced to do something that a lot of less well off people, and people who constantly have to face hardship are forced to contend with: adapting ourselves and our worldviews in order to survive. forcefemming them will only make them fem. they will only adapt their worldview insofar as them now being femme affects them. it wont make them more kind and empathetic people, it wont make them understand.
and if you are one of those people who thinks nonconsensually forcefemming people, even as a joke, is funny, you need a few boots up your ass as well.
Edit: removed a line because people are (incorrectly) getting hung up on the poor wording of that specific line and thus comically missing the entire point.
starts a cult that begins with a butlerian jihad against current technology and its peddlers, and a leftist revolution against capitalism and gender segregation; then builds up new societies around cooperation, tolerance, exploration of self, and inclusivity; finally then so we build all the cool transhumanist technologies so we can have all the benefits of those technologies but all the fuckers who will turn them into the torment nexus and cause needless suffering are dead
@foone ha ha ha, if i had a nickel for every time I've ran into this problem. (my main Win9x pc doesn't have floppy or cd and is a pain in the ass to reinstall every time cuz i need to use my IODD)
@stella for that specific one, it used to be a wii. it now is stripped back to only gamecube functionality. it also needs a dock and 2 breakout cables in order to use. most trimmed wiis end up in similar condition.
